Your new movie Hell's Kitty
- in a few words, what is it about?
Hell's Kitty
is about a Hollywood writer whose cat is possessed and very,
very possessive of him. As he tries to have a love life, the cat gets involved
in a very mean way. Eventually, the protagonist, Nick, has to figure out a way
to get rid of the evil spirit possessing his cat. As he tries, he comes to
discover it’s possessed by someone from his past with a real axe to grind.
Basic question: Why a cat, and your personal feelings about our
feline friends? The idea for the story came from my real
life experiences trying to date in Los Angeles with a cat that was very
possessive of me. I actually dated Lisa, the actress who plays Lisa in the
film and we basically reenacted our scene together of her meeting the cat
for the first time but added a little bit more blood. (Other)sources of inspiration when
writing Hell's Kitty? Adam
was a real neighbor who had a fun sense of humor. I emulated our
conversations about our personal love lives and his comical responses
watching various women come and go in and out of my life; he really blamed
my cat for much of it as well. I suppose taking inspiration from real life
experiences and people and the pet I’ve known was a good part of it. I
also wanted to do something that I could use to promote various
non-profits that help animals. I used the web-series and to some extent
now the film to help promote those causes as well.
Hell's
Kitty started out as a webseries - so what made you eventually
turn it into a feature film, and what are the main differences between the
series and the film (if any)? I decided to turn it into a
film because it was an opportunity to get the attention of a whole new
audience. Not everybody watches webseries. And some of the people
watching the webseries, especially the younger audiences, may not be
watching feature length movies either, too distracted by the time away
from their video games. The movie essentially is the webseries pieced
together with about 25 minutes of a never-before-released ending.
There’s an interstitial interview scene with Nick and his publicist
played by Robert Rhine, the real life publisher of Girls & Corpses Magazine,
in the movie that does not appear in the webseries either. This way,
those who watch the movie will have to watch the webseries to see some of
the footage that was cut out. And those who watch the webseries will have
to see the movie to know how it all ends. In fact, there’s a part where
Angel the antagonist and cat runs away in both the movie and the
webseries. The comic book available on amazon.com called
Lost Angel in Los Angeles tells the story of what happens to Angel the devilish cat on
the streets of LA for those few days she is gone. What can you tell us about
Hell's Kitty's
approach to horror? It’s a homage to the genre as a whole
but it also has fun with the formula. I try to satirize nearly every type
of horror from slasher and ghost story to even the more recent
found-footage type horror film. At the same time, I tried to comically
present iconic characters from popular horror movies in parodies of their
roles but couched in an original story about a horror writer who finds his
greatest story in writing about his real life possessed cat. The story is
essentially a comedy horror along the lines of Joe Dante’s The Burbs
or Wes Craven’s Scream. I think Decay Magazine made a
comparison to Scream. Of course Scream had a much larger budget,
I’m sure. That said, Wes Craven is a great genre bending director and
I’m a big fan and honored by the comparison.
Also, you of course have to talk
about Hell's Kitty's
brand of humour for a bit! It’s a combination parody with
satire with a sort of self-reflective nostalgic humor. It’s every type
of genre film wrapped up in one with satire and goofiness. Joe Dante
meets Sam Raimi meets Lloyd Kaufman. I’m hoping folks that enjoy horror
will enjoy the mysterious comic ride I take them on in the film. Do talk about your
directorial approach to your subject at hand! I would give
an image and background for the character and let the actors take it from
there. If I noticed some of the acting felt too forced, I’d have
them try it again a different way. I didn’t have a lot of time to work
with the talent so I relied on a little early direction and then took what
I could get along the way in production. I remember one particular image I
gave to Lisa was a young Cruella de Vil. I told Michael Berryman to
imagine himself as a rubber band that was being stretched, and then
suddenly released. The way he came at us, I think it worked. You also
play the lead in Hell's
Kitty - so what did you draw upon to bring your character to life,
and have you written Nick with yourself in mind from the get-go? I
wrote the story based on my real experience with my cat. As I thought it
so fun to use a real cat, I used my cat Angel because she didn’t have to
act. She really was that way and so she was being herself. If somebody got
too close, she’d attack them. If they didn’t, she was pretty cool.
There was nobody else that could have played the part with Angel in it.
Angel would have killed them. Even my production insurance would not have
covered that one!
Do
talk about your key cast, and why exactly these people? And especially
talking about the name performers among your actors, how did you get them
even? We basically got more horror icons
in Hell's
Kitty than any movie in history. These include Courtney Gains
and John Franklin, Dale Midkiff, Adrienne Barbeau, Lynn Lowry, Kelli
Maroni, Michael Berryman, even Doug Jones from the 2018 Academy Award
winning film The Shape of
Water, and a real killer klown! It took us probably twenty times as
long to make Hell's
Kitty as a result of trying to placate to their
schedules. I would write their scenes to fit the specific actor in a way
that parodied the role that they were most famous for in the horror genre.
I’d start by pitching their managers. Once I get a few of them and word
spread I started to get managers and talent contacting me asking how they
can be a part of Hell's
Kitty, too. What can you tell us about the shoot as such, and
the on-set atmosphere? The set had a real spirit and
energy. People had a lot of fun. Mostly, they were working for free so I
wanted to keep it that way. We shot mainly on weekends between people’s
regular paying jobs and projects. The fact that we had a real live cat on
set helped, too. I also think because we released most of the footage
relatively quickly online, as part of the webseries (within weeks of
production), people were happy to be part of something that was actually
likely to get seen. There are so many projects that take years to
make and many that never see the light of day. The sheer absurdity of some
of the scenes really helped to add to the excitement and enthusiasm.
Watching Courtney Gains running down the hallway full of corn fields, or
Doug Jones and Bill Oberst jr [Bill
Oberst jr interview - click here] get hissed by my cat as they attempt a mock
exorcism on her, and of course a killer klown creeping around the
apartment all added to the surreal enthusiasm and fun. But don’t get me
wrong, the crew worked fast and furious, even the post team, and we
didn’t have a lot of downtime either. The production crew changed
nearly every set, too, so this helped to keep it fresh for everyone. Our
post team was more consistent (Richard Albert, Johann Martinez, Gustavo
Sampaio, Sarah Grace, and Andrew Franks). On a film that essentially took
six years to complete you can imagine a few days on set is not a high
percentage of the overall time spent to make it happen. This is why the
credit list is nearly as long as Amazon’s subscription list!
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Anything you can tell us about
audience and critical reception of Hell's
Kitty? The audience has been mainly receptive;
comprised of horror fans who are open to indie film and experimentation.
If you’re a straight horror fan with no appreciation for comedy and
bending the rules, you may not enjoy it. I’ve noticed a few very angry,
negative critical reviews on the shaky camera or special effects. We did
this on what most major films spend on meals alone for a day so it's
impossible to make orange juice out of pulp. I think for what we had to
work with it’s a miracle what we managed to achieve! I think a comedy is
the only way to approach such a low budget production; this way, you can
have fun with it and not take anything too seriously; it allows you to
really let go and experiment with something new and forces you to be very
creative just to make it happen at all. The dialogue and over all look and
feel is great as well; and so many fun performances. We didn’t have any
rehearsal time. We ran with it fast and furious. Those who get the film
really seem to love it. I’m inspired everyday by their comments and they
give me the fuel to want to make more movies. Any future projects you'd like to share?
Yes,
I’m always working on new projects. I’m trying to turn Hell's
Kitty into a musical, and I plan to pitch it as a TV show idea, too. I’m also
working on pitching a feature length thriller that I wrote, which is very
related to all these school murder suicides (a much more serious subject),
as well as a dark comedy based on some real mob history, set in the 1920s
Harlem renaissance. I also have a comedy horror script called Hillbillies
vs. Alien Chickens, too. I’ll let you guess what that one’s about.
I’m hoping now with two solid films under my belt that I’ll be able to
get some great collaborations going as well. I was recently chatting
online with the great horror writer, Mort Castle, about turning some of
his work into moving pictures. I think Charles Chiodo (Killer
Klowns from Outer Space) and I talked a little after the Hell's
Kitty premiere about
working together. I just love to create, and I look forward to working
with other creative folks, too.
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What
got you into the filmworld in the first place, and did you receive any
formal training on the subject? I
started in college with a paid internship as part of the Walter Cronkite
School of Broadcasting program with KAET Channel 8 at Arizona State
University. I worked on their local shows starting as a PA doing studio
make up, cameras, teleprompter, character generator work, even floor
managing. When I graduated, I worked as a PA for ESPN and within six
months moved into being an associate director on international programs (I
speak Spanish and Italian so this helped). I later started my own
production company for which I’ve been shooting commercials,
industrials, documentaries, webshows, and now movies, too. Hell's
Kitty
is my second movie technically, my first being a documentary on
masturbation called Sticky: A (Self) Love Story, starring Janeane Garofalo
and Larry Flynt, which was an Amazon Award winner in 2016, and is
currently on Amazon. It screened at Harvard last year in fact. This all
helped me to really understand production on many levels. If you can make Hell's
Kitty on what I made it on, you can do anything. Working both in front of
and behind the camera, what do you prefer more, and what can you tell us
about your approach to each? I really like them both in
different ways. When I’m acting I can immerse myself in one piece of the
puzzle and not worry about the rest of it. I only worry about my wants and
goals and needs as an actor, and the other actors with which I am relating to
in a scene or story. To be authentic as an actor, I have to immerse myself
in the performance, and try to disconnect from the omniscient viewpoint of
really knowing what I plan to say, and what the person in the scene is
going to say or ask of me; knowing how it all ends. It’s really about
letting go and just being, not performing or acting at all. This is why
I’ll approach a character wanting to know what the big picture is and
the goal of the director and then figure out what I need to do to almost
trick myself into tapping into something real inside of me that makes the
experience real too ,and forget that I know any of it. As a director, I
find that I have to always keep a myriad of other things in mind. I
can’t hyper-focus, not if I want to see the big picture and guide it to
fruition. I have to be aware of every piece of the puzzle. It’s more
cerebral and omniscient in this way. I have to immerse myself in a
performance, but then shift gears to watch it again looking for other
aspects like lighting and sound, editing, etc. I have to learn to motivate
and keep my performers on target, while I keep the crew active and
engaged, and focused on the task at hand. As a director, I’m really
involved with everything; I even helped to score much of the music in both
of my films. It’s like being the captain of Star Trek's
Enterprise,
where the ship goes is entirely up to you in the end. If you have not
checked out the Chainsaw Kitty song, please do! The music video is
hilarious thanks to Richard Albert the composer and Gustavo Sampaio, our
film editor, who helped edit the music video, too.
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What can you tell us about
your filmwork prior to Hell's
Kitty? I’ve mainly been involved in a few short
film, a ton of commercials and industrials, and a feature length
documentary. I’ve written a number of feature length scripts and even
had one optioned. I sold a kids’ animation show raising finance for
production. I’ve been involved in production for many years now since I
started in my teens working for a PBS TV station branch and later in
production as an associate director for ESPN. My feature length
documentary, Sticky: A (Self) Love Story starring Janeane Garofalo, Nina
Hartley, and Larry Flynt was an Amazon Award winner and top seller in
2016, and is still getting attention. It screened at Harvard last year. I
hope to obtain a similar if not even greater success with Hell's
Kitty and my future projects. I’d like to get involved with writing, directing
and even producing TV shows soon, too. Filmmakers, writers, actors, whoever else
who inspire you? I’m
inspired by so many both alive and dead. David Lynch, Terry Gilliam,
Alfred Hitchcock, Stanley Kubrick, Igmar Bergman, Elaine May, Steven
Spielberg, Blake Edwards, Federico Fellini, Dario Argento, John
Cassavettes, Luis Bunuel, Nicholas Ray, Joe Dante, Sam Raimi, Martin
Scorcese, Louis Malle, Akira Kurosawa, Adam Kaufman. As for horror comedy,
Joe Dante, Sam Raimi, and Tom Holland are the big three. I love the
writings of Stephen King, Ray Bradbury, Neil Gaiman, Clive Barker, H.G.
Wells, Philip K. Dick, on a more “literary” genre bent I like Langston
Hughes, Flannery O’Conner, Anthony Burgess, William Blake; as for
non-fiction: Alvin Toffler (non-fiction). I read as often as possible.
I’m really enjoying Tom Wolf’s The Bonfire of The Vanities at
the moment. As for actors, I like Sean Connery, Peter Sellers, Christina
Ricci, Giovanni Ribisi, Bruce Cambell, Monica Belluci, Alain Delon, Grace
Kelly, Willem Dafoe, Isabella Rossellini, Tom Hanks, Robin Williams, Jodie
Foster, Marcello Mastroianni, Steve McQueen, John Cassavetes, Peter Falk,
Kim Novak, Forest Whitaker, Edward Norton, Eddie Murphy, Gael Garcia
Bernal, and Marlon Brando. I am keeping my eye on Regina King, Jason
Mitchell, as well as Gonzalo Valensuala.
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Your favourite movies? Excalibur,
The Godfather, Big Trouble In Little China, The Wanderers, Hitchcock’s
Psycho, Time Bandits,
The Road Warrior, Clash of the Titans, History of the World
Part I, The Elephant Man, The Seventh
Seal, A Clockwork Orange, Blade Runner, Pale
Rider, the Good, the Bad, and the Ugly, Star Wars, The Chinese
Connection, Monty Python
and the Holy Grail, The
Princess Bride, Escape from New York, The Graduate, Neighbors,
Army of Darkness,
Gremlins, The Shining,
The Exorcist, The Night of The Living
Dead, Young Frankenstein, Annie Hall, Ghostbusters,
Bugsy Malone, Le Semourai, but not necessarily in that order! ...
and of course, films you really deplore? Cloud Atlas,
the Psycho remake from 1998 (what was the point of that one?), most of the new
Star Wars
movies (they’ve lost their force), almost all the new Marvel
movies (I find them formulaic, and boring, though I am a comic book
collector), and Titanic, which was too sappy for me, and I knew where it
was going ;-)
Your/your
movie's website, Facebook, whatever else?
www.hellskitty.com
@mypetspossessed
www.facebook.com/HellsKittyTV/
hells_kitty
on Instagram
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Anything else
you're dying to mention and I have merely forgotten to ask? We
appreciate the love and support. There are so many folks who helped to
make the film happen from an army of volunteers to the audience and fans
who encouraged us along the way. The film is dedicated to my cat Angel who
passed away a few years back. She was the muse behind the project. We like
to use Hell's
Kitty to promote non-profits that help animals. We’d
love any donations and support to be sent to
fixnation.org
or any other of your favorite non-profits that help the animals,
especially cats who tend to get a bad rap.
Hell's Kitty
is not about a
bad cat. If you watch the movie, you’ll see it’s really about a bad
and jealous, selfish person. The cat is one of the most redeeming
characters in fact! Thanks
for the interview! Thanks for spreading the word!
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