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Your new movie
My Submission - in a few words, what's it about?
It’s about 98 minutes long ... nah, it’s a found footage comedy-drama about an actress submitting a
ridiculous amount of self tapes for a project, all over the course of
one night. What were your sources of inspiration when writing
My Submission,
and is any of this based on personal experiences?
I certainly owe a debt to We’re All Going to the World’s Fair, which
is a movie that came out a few years ago that I didn’t even enjoy.
Sometimes films you dislike can be just as inspiring as films you do
like, because as you’re watching it you’re like ‘WTF this could be so
much better’, and then you start listing ways it could be better, and
by the time you’re done you have an idea for a completely different movie.
As far as things I do like that inspired
My Submission, absolutely the
scene in Swingers where Favreau’s character leaves a ton of answering
machine messages for a girl he just met. And then also the writing of
Neil LaBute. But also, with
My Submission I am kind of just riffing
off of previous films of mine. This is like a sideways version of
Rachael Hunger or No Shark or Apocalypse Beach or We Should Make a
Movie. The connections are there for those who look.
The end credits claim that your lead actress Allison Sonson
[Allison Sonson interview - click here]
has shot her solo scenes entirely on her own - so bearing that in mind, how
did you direct her then?
I directed her during the rehearsal process. She took extensive notes
as we’d go scene by scene and she’d perform it, and I’d tell her
certain things to lean more into, or lean away from. But of course
good casting does a lot of the directing work for you. I chose her
because she was perfect for the role. So when I was directing her
during rehearsal, I was really only giving slight tweaks. Also, if she sent me a scene she recorded, and I thought it could be
better, I’d have her do it again. But that wasn’t very many scenes.
Most of the scenes she really did nail in one go.
Talking about Allison Sonson, what made her perfect for the
role, and how did you find her even?
On Backstage, which I use a lot. I’ll look through 1000 faces looking
for the right person for a role, not as a casting call, just me
browsing profiles, and maybe I’ll message maybe one or two people. I
only ever message people who, if they had to do it tomorrow, I’d be
happy with them as the person. But it takes two to tango obviously.
Sometimes people don’t see the vision, which is fine. But the people
who do, those end up being my people. And Allison got it right away. I
sent her the script at 1AM, she had read it and emailed me back at
5AM, and we met at a coffee shop at 8AM. Some things are fated, and we
were fated to make this movie together for sure. Whether someone
answers that call or not, that’s where free will comes in, but the
pull of destiny was there. We had to do this together.
You also appear in front of the camera at the end of
My Submission -
so do talk about your character, and have you written him with yourself in
mind from the get-go?
Yeah, so this is interesting because this is the first time I’ve been
directly asked about that, whereas I anticipated that this was all
anyone who ask me about. But yeah, I play myself in the film, or
rather a version of myself. I’m Cody Clarke, but I’m Cody Clarke in
this situation. It occurred to me at some point during writing the
film that, if I existed in her world, she would be someone I’d fall in
love with, and that she’d fall in love with. Like, Marissa and Cody
would be crazy about each other. They would become a power couple of
sorts. So it became, I think, a really clever way to do a self-insert
that I had never seen done before. And I think it gave the film a lot
more to do. A version of this film without love, or that meta aspect,
would be interesting, but a little weaker in my opinion. But, to
someone giving it an uncharitable read, they might think this is like,
wish fulfillment, or perverted, or something. The fact that I’m just
suddenly in it in that capacity. But I like that it can appear that
way at first glance, but then if you actually think it through, you
realize that it could only ever be the way that it is, and that it
makes the story as great as it possibly could be.
So how long did it take to
film My Submission,
and what can you tell us about post-production?
Filming it took a few weeks, and about the same for post. So I guess
two months. But the writing of it was kind of slow for me, I usually
write fast but this one took months, if I remember.
Post-production was pretty easy, since it’s all unbroken shots, and
it’s just about finding the perfect frame to start or end each scene
on. And post-production was kind of shooting at the same time, because
she’d send me videos and if I wanted her to do it again I’d tell her what I wanted different.
The $64-question, where can
My Submission be seen?
The goal is definitely to have it be on the various streamers, but the
pipeline to that is really messed up right now. I used to be able to
get my films on there real easy, like I have like 15 movies on Tubi
alone or something, not even counting other sites, but FilmHub, which
I used to use for distribution, has completely 180’d and screwed a ton
of us true independents. Now we’re de-prioritized completely, and if
we want them to even answer our call we have to pay them at least
$1000 a year. Which is insane. I could go on about this forever, but
man, fuck FilmHub right now. They’re a big reason why you aren’t gonna
see a lot of good interesting movies like
My Submission over the next
few years on streaming sites.
So, right now, the only way to see
My Submission is to buy it for
$4.99 on Gumroad: killthelionfilms.gumroad.com
Anything you can
tell us about audience and critical reception of
My Submission?
It’s been hugely positive, which I wasn’t necessarily not expecting,
but I’ve been taken by surprise with. It’s a weird movie, and it’s
very specifically something I’d want to watch, which isn’t necessarily
what a lot of people want to watch these days. Attention spans have
gone to shit, and this is basically like a filmed one-woman play or
something. But, maybe that tide is turning. We’ll see.
Any future projects you'd like to share?
As of the time I’m writing this, I’m gearing up to shoot a Roast of
the Oscars on Oscar night, where me and a bunch of comedians are
gonna roast the Oscars, and I’m gonna film it. That’s part of a yearly
thing since like 2022 where filmmakers all over the world all shoot a
feature film instead of watching the Oscars. Has to be during the 3
1/2 hours or so that the Oscars are on, and has to be 40 min or
longer, because that’s the Academy’s definition of feature-length.
Also, you gotta edit it in a week. It’s a lot of fun, and thousands
and thousands of people have participated, but it gets no press
because it makes that Oscars look bad, and makes truly independent
filmmaking look good. All you’re supposed to know about that’s being
made is TikTok videos and whatnot I guess. ‘Content’. God forbid
people make their own movies.
What got you into filmmaking in the first place, and did you
receive any formal training on the subject?
I always wanted to make movies, but it wasn’t until the DSLR
revolution that I felt like it was possible for me to make one myself.
And I didn’t expect to ever be given the greenlight by anyone else, so
it’d have to be something I could do myself. And so once the Canon T2i
came out, I got that and used it as much as possible and made my first
movie on it. But I had done little funny shorts on a DV camera prior
to that. But I never wanted to make a proper film on a DV camera. On a
Canon T2i I could make my first movie and it look like Clerks 16mm
black and white or something. What
can you tell us about your filmwork prior to
My Submission?
Oh God. How long do you have? Haha. I mean, I’d made 29 feature films
prior to it, all just me green-lighting myself. Some are quite similar
to My Submission, like you’ll hear my voice in it if you watch them,
and others are pretty different. But they’re all me. And I don’t think
I ever waste people’s time. It’s not like you’re working your way
through a Polonia filmography or something. All my stuff is pretty
intelligent, even when some of it is stupid.
How would you describe yourself as a director?
Directing is honestly one of the least interesting aspects of making a
movie for me. Directing is like ‘do it faster’ or ‘you missed your
mark’ or whatever. It’s just being able to tell when someone can do
something better, and knowing how to get them there. What I am is more of a ‘total filmmaker’, as Jerry Lewis first coined
as a concept, but who never really got to witness the full realization
of. I do everything. You watch one of my movies, my fingerprints are
all over it. Even though Allison shot
My Submission, it still looks
like one of my movies. She did the camera operating, but I was very
specific about the cinematography, and what shots to do for each
scene. I have a very specific aesthetic that spans visuals, audio,
word choice, sentence structure, topics, etc. As much as a Wes
Anderson movie is a Wes Anderson movie, a Cody Clarke movie is a Cody
Clarke movie, although there’s a lot less rigidity in my work. I
‘contain more multitudes’. Though I do love his first 5 or so movies a
lot. And Fantastic Mr. Fox.
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Filmmakers who inspire you?
Myself, first and foremost. I cheat off my own paper far more
than I ever cheat off anyone else’s. Whenever I make a movie, I’m like,
‘man, if I had just zigged instead of zagged at this point in the story,
that could be a whole other movie’. Every idea I have, has like 2 or 3
other sub-ideas contained within it. And because I greenlight myself, I
have a greater chance of realizing those sub-ideas than anyone who has to
beg people to let them make a movie. Like I can just go off and make a 45
minute movie chasing some weird thing that I want to do, and maybe less
people watch it than a movie like
My Submission, but
those that do, there will always be someone who’s like ‘man, that’s my
favorite one’. That’s never not been the case.
But as far as filmmakers I like a lot, I love
Paul Thomas Anderson except for Inherent
Vice and One Battle After Another, and Vincent Gallo, Todd Solondz,
Kim Ki-Duk, Jean-Pierre Melville, Brian De Palma, Mamet, Neil LaBute,
Jerry Lewis, Sean Baker, Joe Swanberg [Joe
Swanberg interview - click here], Frank V. Ross, probably about
half of Jim Jarmusch’s movies, Eric Schaeffer, Chantal Akerman, Whit
Stillman. The list goes on. I could literally just rattle off names
all day. I worked at a video store as a teenager and into my twenties,
I’ve seen thousands and thousands of movies. Your favourite
movies? Buffalo 66, Fall (the Eric Schaeffer one),
Spring Summer Fall Winter and Spring, Margaret (the director’s cut),
My Blue Heaven, Tommy Boy, Little Big League, 3-Iron, Swingers, Last Days of Disco. Again, I can
go on all day long. ... and of course, films you really
deplore? Pretty much everything anyone has adored over the last 10 years. Like,
just name any recent beloved movie and I probably hate it. Except for
the Safdie stuff, that stuff’s fine.I tried Hamnet last night, and that was godawful. And
Sinners! Woof. I
hate all that shit. There’s more genuine heart in an Andy Sidaris
movie than in any Oscar movie in quite a while. Obvious exception:
Anora, which I was really happy won.
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I thought you were gonna ask me about Allison more. Allison is
amazing. She was truly a godsend, and I had such a great time with
her. I hope to get to work with her again, and I wish her all the
success in the world. I can only hope that
My Submission becomes a
calling card for her. I don’t know how anyone can watch that movie and
not think she’s an amazing actress with phenomenal range. I know if I
saw that movie and didn’t know her, I’d be obsessed. I’d run through
walls to work with her. You know? Like, fuck. What a performance, and
what a person. Idiosyncratic af. Just like I am. Which, maybe we
probably annoy each other slightly because of, but we never take it
personal. I remember one night at a diner with her, she was being
really annoying about her food or something. Like, we’re just
completely different people in a diner. I’m a cat in that environment,
and she’s a dog, if that makes any sense. But, my annoyance was all
surface. At my core I was like, I just love that this creature that is
her exists. You can’t help but smile, externally and internally. And I
hope that’s how people feel when they interact with Marissa by
watching the movie. Part of why I wanted to tell that story is that I
wanted to capture what that feeling is like. A mix of shaking your
head and smiling, and ultimately loving. Allison is not Marissa, but
Marissa is a love letter to what a Marissa even is, or an Allison even
is, or a Cody even is. It’s a love letter to a collection of traits in
a person that produces the effect that I mean. I don’t know if what
I’m saying even makes sense right now, but hopefully someone reading
this has that experience reading my words. I think I just genuinely
think that the most romantic thing in the world is for someone to
overshare, to take that risk, and for someone listening to be like
‘yes, exactly’. That’s what we need more of in this world. Unabashed
uniqueness, and charitable reads, and acceptance. Thanks
for the interview! You’re welcome! It was fun.
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