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Your new movie
Vielleicht besser so - in a few words, what's it about?
You know, after our last interview was published, I realized you were
probably asking for a summary rather than the theme. At any rate,
Vielleicht besser
so is about how everything happens for a reason, and you
never know what it’s good for.
What were your sources of inspiration when writing
Vielleicht besser
so, and is any of it based on personal experiences?
It’s pretty much inspired by my experience of making movies again. I
essentially only began the pre-production for
Turing Test because a friend
bullied me into doing it. I hadn’t made movies for roughly six years at
that point, and I had no intent of ever going back to directing. So much
good came out of it though. I reconnected with a person I thought was gone
from my life forever, and of course it connected me with Marlene Fahnster,
who is just perfect for the roles I create. I thought
Turing Test would be
a one and done, but knowing that someone like her exists motivates me to
write more and better scripts.
As a creative person yourself, to what extent could you identify
with Jule and the artistic drought she's apparently going through? Or to
what extent could you identify with any of the other characters in your
movie? I think there is a right way and a wrong way for self-inserts. I hope I
did it the right way. Turing Testled to a few good things, but there
were also some downsides. There were reasons why I didn’t want to make
movies anymore after all. Doing creative work is hard and often not
rewarding, especially if it can’t be done alone and needs to be a
collaborative effort. In the independent circle where nobody gets paid,
you can’t always count on people having the drive to bring your vision to
life. Which to me makes no sense, because if I join a project and know I
won’t get paid, I will probably work even harder. If there is no money to
be made and I am on board, that means I want to be there for the project,
and make sure the director gets exactly what he wants from me. But I
digress.
As for the characters, Clara is thematically based on the friend I
mentioned earlier. Other than her function in the story, I modeled her a
bit after another friend of mine, even placing a hint to that which only
she and I will get. Since Jule is a condensed version of my experience, I
can identify with her and what she is going through a lot of course.
Do talk about your directorial approach to
your story at hand!
Do talk about your directorial approach to your story at hand!
I’m all about the acting. I sent the actors the script, had some meetings
with them, then we shot the thing. I know that a lot of directors spend
more time on other things, and if it works for them, why shouldn’t they?
For me, it works to focus on the actors. Everything else will fall into
place. What can you tell us about
Vielleicht besser
so's cast, and why exactly these people? Marlene
Fahnster was a given. She will always be the lead in my movies, for as
long as she wants to do it. I write most of my scripts in one go,
forgetting everything else around me. I remember finishing the first
draft, and immediately apologizing to her afterwards, telling her that I
have a new script where she would be a perfect fit for the protagonist. We
had just worked together on another movie at that time, and I already had
presented her a script for the next one, which she had agreed to luckily,
when Vielleicht besser
so crossed my mind
and I had to write it. I was really afraid that she would be mad at me for
asking, which sounds ridiculous now, but that’s just how it was in that
moment. I feel blessed that she was not only very open to read it, but
also liked the script and obviously ended up playing the part, embodying
Jule perfectly. I would have probably discarded the script if she had
declined. I truly believe there is no one who could have brought Jule to
life the way Marlene did. I tend to neglect the supporting roles in my
scripts a little bit (I’m working on it), but my protagonists are
extremely important to me and I feel somewhat protective of them. In the
past, I made some casting mistakes, and it still hurts me deeply to this
day. But with Marlene, I’m always at ease and know the respective
character is in good hands.
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I found Lisa Leonard while browsing an actors database and contacted her.
There was something in her material that just screamed “Clara” to me. I
had two other candidates which I already knew from other projects, but
Lisa was the most convincing when I talked with her. I think her on-screen
chemistry with Marlene is great, and I hope I can get those two together
again soon.
For the man, I posted an ad. Francisco Aurell was one of the applicants,
and it was pretty clear that he would be the best fit. There isn’t a lot
to work with for this role, since the man is a bit mysterious, and as a
director I also tried to not know too much about him, in order to convey
that feeling to the audience. Francisco did a great job, even though my
approach might have not been the most beneficial one. I definitely need to
work with him more often as well. A few
words about the shoot as such, and the on-set atmosphere? Without a doubt the most pleasant shoot I had since making movies again by
far. Even overall, it’s probably in the top three out of my now eleven
movies, with Vielleicht besser
so being the eleventh, or third from the
“modern era”. Back in the day, we used to finish ahead of schedule every
shooting day, something that I didn’t seem to be able to replicate in my
first two modern movies, quite the contrary actually, to my shock. This
time, we did it again, everything just flowed as flawlessly as you could
ask for with a no-budget project. There were moments that must not happen
again, but I’m really happy overall.
The $64-question of course, where can
Vielleicht besser
so be seen? Tallying up to $128 I see. I found
Vielleicht besser
so hard to translate
into English, especially but not only because of the allusions to
Benjamin
Blümchen, which hardly works internationally. They didn’t even work for
some of the younger people in the team, which wasn’t the greatest way to
learn that I am old now. I really threw away those six years … Then again,
Marlene was too young back then, so it was probably for the best. Here’s
that theme of the movie again, whatever happens, you never know what it’s
good for … It’s all happening for a reason. To answer your question, I’ll
try to get it into some festivals. We’ll see how it plays out. Anything you can tell us about
audience and critical reception of
Vielleicht besser
so? My sloppy translation worked for a few critics, or maybe it didn’t and
that’s why they liked it. There aren’t many German speaking people (that I
know of at least) who concern themselves with reviewing short films, which
isn’t the best base for a German short film to get recognized. That was
part of the reason to shoot
Turing Test in English, but
Vielleicht besser
so had to be in German. Any future projects you'd like to
share?
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The next short will be a melancholic chamber play with Marlene Fahnster in
the lead. Your/your movie's website, social media,
whatever else?
Still nothing. I’m old, remember?
Anything else you're dying to
mention and I have merely forgotten to ask?
I want to thank the person without whom I would have never made a single
movie.
Thanks
for the interview!
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