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An Interview with Lee Cipolla, Director of Rally Caps

by Mike Haberfelner

September 2024

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Surface level-wise, it's a story about a young boy who loves baseball, suffers a traumatic injury, quits playing, and then regains his confidence at a summer camp with the support of new friends. Thematically, it's about a family healing from tragedy and estrangement, ultimately brought back together by the journey of their youngest member, Jordy, as he finds his way back to baseball. 

 

Since Rally Caps has a baseball theme - is that a sport you at all enjoy, actively or at least passively?

 

When I was growing up, baseball was the most popular sport amongst me and my friends. Playing, watching, collecting cards, and enjoying gum and sunflower seeds on summer afternoons—it was pure escapism. I loved its timelessness compared to other sports. Despite the pressure of some in-game situations, you are never really up against a clock (although that's changed recently). As I've aged with baseball, I've seen it go through its share of struggles and learned it's not immortal. It's just like anything else in life: beautiful, unique, flawed, but evolving. Perfectly imperfect.

 

How did you stumble upon the book of the same name that Rally Caps is based on, and what made you want to adapt it for the screen? And what can you tell us about your collaboration with the book's authors Stephen J. and Jodi Michelle Cutler?

 

When my first two films were released by Lionsgate, my company put out an online query seeking finished low-budget sports-themed scripts for development to be emailed to my company's site. Stephen J. Cutler, who co-wrote the book with his daughter Jodi Michelle Cutler, did no such thing. In lieu of a script, he physically mailed me what I'd call a “Rally Caps fan package”: A huge envelope filled with merchandise—a golf shirt, hat, and other items—along with the book and a handwritten note on its cover. I don't remember what it said, something along the lines of, "Please take a look at Rally Caps; it's going to make a great movie." At first, I felt a bit bad. Baseball movies are notoriously hard to make and expensive. My initial thought was, "This seems like a nice fella with a story he wants to tell, but this movie will never happen."

Clearly, I was wrong.

 

Apart from the book, what were your sources of inspiration when scripting Rally Caps?

 

I made sure the movie wore its inspirations on its sleeves—The Sandlot, Field of Dreams, A League of Their Own, Angels in the Outfield. Those 90s classics represented a golden age of heartfelt family films, a genre I always dreamed of working in but thought required a studio-level budget.

 

There was one specific moment that sparked me to adapt the book. I had been writing scripts for over a decade in Los Angeles, struggling to get something off the ground. None of my work was connecting. Then I read an interview with Jordan Peele where he said something to the effect of "write something that you would want to watch." That struck me as simple yet profound.

 

Hungry for a fresh take on a baseball kids' movie, I started adapting the book. Although Stephen and I discussed making the movie when I started, I honestly expected it to sit on my desktop and collect dust. But once people started reading it, it resonated quickly and took off.

 

Do talk about your approach to the family movie genre!

 

Referencing those family baseball classics of the 80s and 90s, and a few since then, these films often revolve around something magical, or high concept, or a remarkable true story, which gives them broad appeal. But what if the family baseball, kids, and summer elements served as a backdrop to a small concept character-driven indie film? Our movie employs a conventional sports narrative structure but it’s really a slice-of-life film that focuses on real people facing everyday problems. I’m not sure if this blend has been done through the lens of a fun, baseball-themed kids' summer film before. So that’s what I felt was a fresh take on the genre.

 

A few words about your overall directorial approach to your story at hand?

 

I believe filmmakers often misconstrue “good directing” as having to have a clear-cut vision for every detail of their creation. In reality, it's a collaborative effort involving a village of talented individuals who work their butts off. As a director, I try to express my intent in a conversation with my colleagues, whether discussing an actor's objective in a scene or conveying a certain aesthetic to the cinematographer. After that conversation is had, whether there’s common ground reached or not,  it's crucial for me to step back and let people do their jobs. Let them cook!

 

What can you tell us about Rally Caps' key cast, and why exactly these people?

 

In my opinion, they all nailed it. It's as simple as that. I wish I could break down every role and actor for you, but let's focus on the main stars, the family. When I collaborated with producer Amy Williams to put together a cast wish list, the first two names we had for Nora and Pop were Judd Hirsch and Amy Smart. We couldn't believe it when both said yes, and we were off to the races.

 

Judd, a two-time Oscar nominee, brought all his pedigree and experience but had the enthusiasm of someone making their debut and living out a dream. He fit our movie in just weeks ahead of working with Steven Spielberg on The Fabelmans. Despite his tight schedule, he cared deeply about every part of Rally Caps and his role in supporting the film.

 

Amy Smart, also a legend with key roles in multiple classic films over the last two decades, was the ultimate team player. She is incredibly instinctual, making everything look so easy as an artist. I don't feel bad saying this because she’s had such a successful career that many could only dream about, but she's an underrated artist. She just is. There's not a role out there she couldn't play.

 

Carson Minniear is an adult in a kid's body—wise beyond his years, instinctual, and always in the moment. A director’s dream. When working with children, there's often a lot to worry about, especially if a child is the lead and not committed to the role. But Carson was committed, professional, and mature. It was like having an adult colleague on set. He is naturally gifted and made my job much easier. There’s always a small crop of elite child and pre-teen actors in every generation. They don’t grow on trees. Carson has that ability, so, keep an eye out for him.

 

I also need to mention Ben Morang. He may not get talked about enough, but he’s stellar. His role was perhaps the most challenging to make relatable to an audience: a brooding, angry teenager who hasn’t processed his father’s death. Yet, I believe viewers are engaged and committed to his character's healing by the end, which is a testament to his performance. His role called for him to be restrained, often letting his scene partner take the spotlight and be louder, more emotional, while he remained more reactionary. That’s selfless acting and takes discipline. It’s a hard task for such a young person to understand all of that. But he passed with flying colors. If he hadn't, this movie would have fallen apart at the seams.

 

You also have to talk about Rally Caps' summer camp location, and what was it like filming there? And how did you find it even?

 

I grew up just 10 minutes from the filming site, which made the experience incredibly surreal. My mom was on the crew throughout the filming, and we both tried to take in every moment as best we could.

Interestingly, it wasn’t my idea to use this camp, nor did I seek it out deliberately. Stephen J. Cutler, the co-writer of the book, had a contact at the camp, and the owner sent us pictures. The camp fit the movie aesthetically, but it was only after prioritizing it as one of our favorite locations that we discovered it was near my childhood home.

 

Do talk about the shoot as such, and the on-set atmosphere!

 

Several members of the cast and crew mentioned that it felt like we were actually attending summer camp. During Covid, with strict protocols in place, 99% of the team was quarantined on the campgrounds. We slept in cabins and bunks, ate camp food, and fully immersed ourselves in the experience.

 

The $64-question of course, where can Rally Caps be seen?

 

18.99 dollar answer: it will be available for rental, purchase and VOD everywhere on September 10th, 2024. Should be easy to seek out. If you want to snag a DVD (remember those?) version of it, you can pre-order it here: https://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/1563710692

 

Anything you can tell us about audience and critical reception of Rally Caps?

 

Including your review, we’ve had mostly favorable reviews. Which I’m grateful for. As of this writing, we’re certified fresh on Rotten Tomatoes :)

 

Any future projects you'd like to share?

 

Nothing yet. I have a couple of projects "in development", as they say, but nothing ready to start rolling at the moment.

 

What got you into filmmaking in the first place, and did you receive any formal training on the subject?

 

I have always been involved with the medium on some level for as long as I can remember. My first film was when I was about 8 years old. It was about two New York Jets fans (played by myself and my childhood buddy Jason Campbell, who also appears in Rally Caps) who watch in real time as Joe Namath predicts the Jets' Super Bowl victory. My dad (the ghost director) shot it with a VHS camera and edited it on his VCR. Fun stuff.

 

I didn't fully commit to film as a career until high school, but it was always something I did in one way or another throughout my whole life. Not to mention that I watched movies religiously. Back in the 80s and 90s, when I was growing up, there wasn’t the same access to movies as today. We as a family watched a lot of the movies that came out in theaters but I also devoured whatever we had on VHS at home over and over again. The Wizard of Oz, Field of Dreams, Stand By Me and Boyz ‘N The Hood were my staples—I probably watched each of those films about 500 times.

 

What can you tell us about your filmwork prior to Rally Caps?

 

I have a pretty diverse group of projects in terms of genre. My first two features, Know Thy Enemy and Harder They Fall, were shot pretty much right out of college but secured distribution through Lionsgate. My third film, The Shift, stars Danny Glover. All of these movies are available online. None of them are like Rally Caps, hehe.

 

How would you describe yourself as a director?

 

I’d like to think I serve the story, whatever that entails, as opposed to serving myself. I think there’s where filmmakers go wrong. If you’re making ego-driven decisions, the integrity of the work suffers.

 

Filmmakers who inspire you?

 

It's tough to answer as it’s changed throughout my life. I love the popular ones, of course: Spielberg, Coppola, Cameron, Scorsese, Zemeckis, Spike Lee. However, the one who most directly impacted me was Robert Rodriguez. When I was 20, a friend bought me a copy of his book Rebel Without A Crew. I read it in one sitting, dropped everything, and made my first feature film straight away. Honestly, I'm not sure if I would have taken the leap into filmmaking without reading it. If you're struggling to make your first film, pick up that book and don't look back.

 

Your favourite movies?

 

To name just a few... Stand By Me, Field of Dreams, The Sandlot, Boyz 'N The Hood, Heat, Jerry Maguire, and Contact. The latter surprises many people, but I had to mention it. I think it's vastly underrated.

 

... and of course, films you really deplore?

 

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Your/your movie's website, social media, whatever else?

 

https://rallycapsthemovie.com/

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Thanks for sharing!

 

Anything else you're dying to mention and I have merely forgotten to ask?

 

You’re the man. That’s all. Thank you.

 

Thanks for the interview!

 

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