First of all, why don't you introduce yourself to those of us who don't
already know you?
My
name is Itai Guberman. I am an Israeli-Australian writer, director and
producer. I have made several shorts and a web series and am currently
going through the (long) process of completing a feature film. I am the founder and CEO of MyIndie
Productions, which operates both as a film
production company AND an independent artists community.
Could you talk about some of the projects you are working on at
the moment, and are there any future projects you'd like to share? At
the moment I am in the process of completing my first feature film, Revelation. We have shot half the film, then took a break and experienced
some delay in getting back to production. We are now in the midst of
pre-production for the second half of shooting. We hope to complete the
production in 2020. What
got you into filmmaking in the first place, and did you receive any formal
training on the subject?
I
have been a fan of film ever since I can remember. I have been watching a
ridiculous amount of films from a very young age and always had an
affinity for the arts. I read almost as many books as I see films. I also
used to write short stories as a young kid. At around 2006, I had a
conversation with a close friend of mine, Peter Angel, and we decided to
write and make a short film. We co-wrote a short script, auditioned a
number of actors and decided on the cast, partnered up with a DP/editor,
who I co-directed the film with, got some friends to help out and went out
and shot it.
The result was a short film called The Collector, which we
actually sent to a handful of festivals and it got into a couple. We then
made a few skits for a segment on a public TV channel show and
unsuccessfully tried to shoot a feature. We had to fold that production
when we realized we'd need more money than we thought. After that, we took
a long break from filmmaking, which was just a hobby at the time. In 2009,
I moved from Australia back to Israel, my birth country which I left at
the age of 13. In 2010, I decided to go to film school and in 2014
completed my Master's Degree in Film & Television from Tel-Aviv
University. I've been making films ever since.
Do talk about your production
company MyIndie
Productions, and the philosophy behind it! The
production company was put together to give a framework under which I
could keep making more films. When the company website went live, I
decided to dedicate part of it to an independent artists community. I
decided to do that in order to try to help other filmmakers who are in the
same boat as us, find more audience, get more exposure, etc. My thinking
is that as indie filmmakers, we are all in the same boat and if we band
together, we'd be much stronger and get much further. Artists tend to
think that they are in competition with other artists, which couldn't be
farther from the truth. The success of any indie filmmaker is good for
everyone as it places more attention on the indie industry and as a
result, creates more chances for others to succeed. We believe that if
artists promoted each others' work, we'd be able to share audiences and
help one another improve and succeed. There is too much petty jealousy and
competition going on. Some think that they can build themselves up by
tearing others down which is simply not true, or right. We hope to help
diffuse that a little and create a spirit of camaraderie among artists. What
can you tell us about your MyIndie
Productions co-conspirator (and frequent co-writer, co-director,
actor) Asaf Angel, and what's your collaboration like? And how did the two
of you first meet even? Asaf
and I met at Tel-Aviv University and found we had a lot in common when it
comes to film. That passion for filmmaking meant that we were helping
almost all of our friends on their productions. We did everything from
just being a helping extra set of hands on set, to lighting, to boom,
sound recording, cinematography and script editing and advice. As we also
helped each other with every project we were making, we started consulting
one another often and eventually thought that teaming up would be the next
natural step. Once I got MyIndie
registered and up and running, Asaf
joined and we got to work pretty much right away. To date, we have made
several shorts, a web series, two seasons of an indie film review series
and, well, half a feature :) Asaf also had a big part in assisting with
getting the independent artists community up and running, which we still
personally operate today.
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Let's go through your
filmography a bit: Your first movie was I think The Collector from
2007 - so what's that one about, how did it come into being, and looking
back at it now, how do you feel about it?
The Collector, as mentioned earlier, was when filmmaking was just a hobby. My
good friend, Peter Angel (today the CEO at AngerMan Distribution), and I
decided to just go out and make a short. We just wrote it, put a cast
& crew together and went out and made it. It was great fun and I think
that's when the match, or the spark, was lit. It gave me the understanding
that I can get all these ideas on paper and use all that knowledge of film
to try to make some original projects come to life. The Collector will
forever be one of my favourites, as it was my very first film. It was also
a collaboration from the get-go. I co-wrote and co-produced it with Peter
and co-directed with Thanassi Arthur Panagiotaras, so collaboration from
that point on came easy to me. The Collector is a crime comedy that needs
to be seen. It is very difficult to say what it's about without spoiling.
We are currently trying to improve the footage so that we can post it
online in decent quality at some stage, so stay tuned :)
With Third
Temple, you made a political thriller - so do talk about the
movie's plot, and is it in any way inspired by actual events? Third
Temple is a script that took the current state of affairs in Israel in
2014 and amped it up to 11... hundred. It is a political thriller that
deals with the issues of corrupt governments and how they affect their
public. It may be best that I don't say too much about the plot as it
needs to be experienced. The idea came from the social protest of 2011 in
Israel, which started by people rallying together in demonstrations
against the ever-rising costs of living, especially the costs of housing.
It became a national story that went on for a while and caused a small
change in the government, but hardly enough. Corruption is just embedded
too deep in this government that it needs to be yanked at the root one
day, but that is unlikely to happen, so largely, the status quo remains.
We set Third
Temple at 2017 (then three years in the future) and followed
from those 2011 events. Your
webseries The Bruised Spring's Teens - again, what's the story, and
what can you tell us about its brand of comedy? And how does shooting a
series compare to making a self-contained film?
The
Bruised Spring's Teens happened shortly after Third
Temple was completed.
We were spent and needed a long break after a tough production and
not-so-easy post-production for Third
Temple and decided to take a couple
of months off. After a few days, we were already itching to do something
new. I had The Bruised Spring's Teens concept in mind for a while and
decided to go ahead and write the first episode. We went into shooting
within days. I wrote the other four episodes, we cast two fantastic actors
in Tzachi Cohen and the late Tomer Shechori and went to work. Asaf and I
acted as a two-man crew, basically handling all crew responsibilities
between the two of us. It was cheap and quick and exactly how we wanted
it.
The
premise came from people at film school constantly advising us to
"shoot what we know", so I thought it would be funny to make a
web series about two guys who want to make a webseries, let the world
collapse into itself and let the chips fall where they may :) The BST, as
we call it, is a wacky comedy that parodies and spoofs well-known films
and one TV series. It needs to be seen to be understood, and even then you
might be left scratching your head. Some get it, some don't. We love it :)
Your
psychological thriller Dolphin
- what's that one about, and the inspirations for it?
Well, Dolphin actually came about as a result of a discussion with, and a
challenge laid down by, a lecturer at university. We had a discussion
about weapons, mainly guns and the way they are portrayed in Israeli films
and TV. We came to a conclusion that most films and TV don't do it well
and it hardly ever looks convincing, aside for in films about the Army. My
lecturer said that it is very difficult to do and I disagreed, so he
challenged me to make a film in which a gun is used and to make it look
authentic and convincing. I am quite stubborn, so I mapped out a script on
the bus ride home from university and went on to write Dolphin. To keep a
long story short, I proved him wrong. We actually shot Dolphin
before Third
Temple, but we had some issues with the rights to the music. We
re-edited the film and finally released it
in 2016. It did quite well, winning Best Actress at Red Phoenix
International Film Festival in the U.S., for the wonderful Inbal
Eizenberg, who co-starred with Asaf Angel, and it also picked up Best
International Short Film at ACAFilms Low Film Festival in Brazil. Not bad
considering we only sent it to a handful of festivals. As far as cinematic
inspirations beyond the challenge laid and accepted, I guess there are
some De Palma influences in there, a dash of Tarantino and some subgenre
influences I'd rather not mention so as not to give too much away.
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Your
most recently released film is the horror short Ivy - so what's the
plot there, and do talk about your movie's approach to horror for a bit!
Well
firstly, Ivy was actually not meant to be a short film at all.
Ivy is part
of the Revelation feature film we are working on. The film is divided into
segments and Ivy is one of them. Once we shot it, we decided to use it to
"test the water" and see how the viewing public will respond to
the material. As it is part of the feature, we could not release it online
for free viewing, so we went the festival route. It was quite a big
success in a festival run which we decided to cut short once we got our
answer. It was an official selection at thirty festivals and won nine
awards. We really can't complain :)
As
for the plot, the short synopsis is "Ivy is a short psychological
horror-thriller about a man’s struggle to come to grips with his
deteriorating mental state stemming from losing the love of his
life." I can't tell you anymore, it really needs to be seen.
As
for my approach to horror, it is quite simple. I believe a distinction
needs to be made in horror. As far as viewers and fans, they are mostly
covered by two groups: Horror film fans and horror fans. Horror fans love
everything horror. They love it when it's good, love it when it's bad and
fall over themselves to see it again and again when it is mediocre. Horror
film fans are a lot more picky. This is because they are film fans, first
and foremost, and anything they watch (they also like other genres,
believe it or not) still needs to be a good MOVIE. I think that there are
many terrible horror films out there that are very successful as they
cater for horror fans. Some of those films are even considered classics,
but if you examine them from a filmmaking point of view, they are
shockingly bad. As I want to survive to finish my feature, I will not name
any. LOL. Horror fans are very passionate about their favourites. But
seriously, I don't see anything wrong with it, I just believe the
distinction should be made. Some are great films and others are just great
horror pieces that happen to also be films, just not very good ones. There
are also films that cross over between the two and are pretty great.
I
consider myself first and foremost a film fan, so my horror needs to have
some sophistication behind it and it needs to show some quality, first in
the storytelling and script departments and then also in production value.
I try to make the best film I can make, not the best horror. I am not a
huge fan of gore or jump scares. I don't mind gore or a clever jump scare,
one that belongs in the story, but I don't go out of my way to have them
in my films. I like to both challenge and entertain my audience and I hope
I succeed.
You
seem to try your hands on a lot of genres - so why is that, and are there
any genres especially close to you?
As
mentioned earlier, I started in writing and making comedy, then moved on
to thrillers, then horror. So it was a steady process. While I currently
am concentrating on horror, I do intend to make comedies, thrillers and
even straight dramas in the future. It's all about story. If the story is
good and the production is under a budget we can find, I'll make it.
I
grew up on Mel Brooks and Jim Abrahams and the Zucker Brothers-type
comedies. I also waited with great anticipation for films with Bill
Murray, Dan Aykroyd, Jim Belushi, Gene Wilder, Eddie Murphy and other
comedians of those eras. At the same time, I also loved any kind of
thrillers, French action films and dramas, European horror, any other
horror and possibly most of all, westerns. I loved anything from s
spaghetti
western to bigger productions and while most people find it difficult to
believe, my favourite all-time film is a western. Sci-fi later got into
the mix and before I knew it, I realized I did not play favourites with
films and just loved all genres as long as they gave me some viewing
value, whether plain entertainment or a more intelligent challenge.
Over the years,
you've moved operations from Israel to Australia - so what prompted that
move, and how does filming in Israel compare to making movies down under?
I
made my first short in Australia under the now defunct company Vagrant
Productions. Peter Angel, who was my partner in the company, and I started
it in order to try to make films as a hobby, but leaving the option open
to pursue it further. After we made The Collector and The Latino Movie
Show skits, Peter got married and started a family, so he had less time
and we folded Vagrant. In 2009, I decided to move back to Israel as I
needed a life change. Once there, I noticed I had the time and ability to
do it, so I went to film school. The MyIndie
idea was with me for years
and I registered the company while on one of my temporary stays in
Australia. When I started making films in Israel, I kept them under the MyIndie
banner and will continue to do that in the future, no matter where
the films are made.
When
I made films in Australia, I was working as an amateur, which is more
comparable to making films as a student in Israel. Once out of film
school, it's a whole new world. It's time to start paying cast & crew
and look at things more professionally. The budgets need to be realized
somehow and they keep getting larger. On the plus side, the films keep
improving steadily as well. These days I believe films are somewhat more
expensive to make in Australia than in Israel, but upcoming productions
will hopefully take places in both countries, as well as the U.S. or
wherever filmmaking takes me :)
You
of course also have to talk about the MyIndie Review Vlog for a
bit, and the idea behind it! We
started MyIndie Review Vlog for two reasons. The first was to have a
platform for indie filmmakers to have their films reviewed and showcased.
A video review can look a lot better than a written review, mainly as you
show parts of the film or trailer in the review and pique people's
interest. The second reason was to give Asaf an outlet as an actor. We
both write the episodes, but Asaf gets to review them in front of the
camera and we have steadily given him more and more rope to play around
with... as long as he doesn't hurt himself ;) How would you describe
yourself as a director? I'm
not sure. It might be for other people to say. I believe I communicate
well with my actors. That is mainly due to the fact that I write the
scripts and the vision is mine and so I see it very clearly and that makes
it easier to communicate to others. So far I've had a great time with my
actors and crew for the most part. I enjoy directing and along with
writing, are the only roles I hope to fill in future productions. I don't
enjoy producing much, so I hope to do less of it as we go forward. It
might not be possible, but it's nice to dream :) Filmmakers who inspire you? Probably
too many to mention, so a few off the top of my head... Krzysztof
Kieslowski, Sergio Leone, Sam Peckinpah, John Ford, Sidney Lumet, John
Sturges, Stanley Kubrick, Brian De Palma and Mel Brooks, among others.
More recent influences can include Paul Thomas Anderson, the Coen
Brothers, Jim Jarmusch, Quentin Tarantino, Denis Villeneuve, Olivier
Assayas, Francois Ozon and probably many others for a variety of reasons. Your
favourite movies? Ah,
the million Dollar question. Luckily, I am one of the few filmmakers that
have a definite answer of a one favourite film, which is The Magnificent
Seven from 1960. I just love it and watch it at least once a year. I am
also a huge fan of Blade Runner, John Carpenter's The
Thing, Pulp Fiction,
Donnie Darko, Enemy (2013), Grosse Pointe Blank and many, many more. ... and of course, films you really
deplore? I
hate films that show no originality and simply ride the success of other
films. I am not a big fan of remakes, reboots, re-imaginings, sequels,
etc., although they do work in some cases. I particularly deplore many of
the films today that don’t place much care and attention to the story
and script. Many can have one flaw in them that can ruin the whole film
and was easily correctable had they put attention to that. I feel most
script for films released these days are just well below acceptable. Your/your movie's website, Facebook, whatever
else?
You
can find all our project pages on our MyIndie
website:
https://myindieproductions.com/
MyIndie
projects on VOD:
Dolphin:
https://vimeo.com/ondemand/155001
Third
Temple:
https://vimeo.com/ondemand/155000
The
Bruised Spring's Teens:
https://vimeo.com/ondemand/154100
MyIndie Review Vlog:
https://myindieproductions.com/myindie-review-vlog/
Facebook:
MyIndie
Page:
https://www.facebook.com/MyIndieProductions/
MyIndie
Group:
https://www.facebook.com/groups/362293570848450/
MyIndie Reviews:
https://www.facebook.com/MyIndieReviews/
Revelation
page:
https://www.facebook.com/RevelationFeatureFilm/
Ivy
page:
https://www.facebook.com/IvyMovie/
The
Bruised Spring's Teens page:
https://www.facebook.com/TheBruisedSpringsTeens/
Third
Temple page:
https://www.facebook.com/thirdtemplemovie/
MyIndie
Twitter:
https://twitter.com/MyIndieProd
MyIndie
Instagram (not as active as we'd like):
https://www.instagram.com/myindieproductions/
Anything else you're dying to mention and I have
merely forgotten to ask? Yeah.
People... #SupportIndieFilm #SupportIndieArtists !! :) Thanks for the interview!
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