Your upcoming movie Scales - in a few words, what is it
Joe Harvey - Scales is a claustrophobic thriller that spends one evening with
four volatile characters in an apartment, with dark secrets coming to the
fore and threatening to spoil the party.
How did the project fall together in the first
place, and how did you all come on board? And what drew you to the
Nathan Hannawin - I met Joe and Anthony on one of the online film sites, like a job
site for the film industry. I saw they had a small ad for someone to
direct a script at a reading and potentially lead onto further things. I
don't think it actually mentioned Scales or what the film was about, and
I later found out that was because they were playing their cards close
to their chest, but I thought there was no harm in sending a message. We
met up in person at the Curzon and we really got on well. By this point
I had a copy of the script and had a chance to read it through a few
times and thought it was really good. When we all met up, we just got on
really well, and we all share the same energy and passion for the
JH - After the success of our first collaboration, Sweetboy, Anthony and
I were keen to hook up again. He dropped me a message one evening saying
he wanted me to write a film about four characters (a boxer, his
girlfriend and manager, an entrepreneur and a drug dealer) in a confined
location, giving me free reign on what to do with these varied
characters. This concept struck a chord with me and I immediately knew
the direction I wanted to take the script in and how I wanted the
narrative to play out.
collaboration between the three of you like, actually? And how have you
guys first met even?
Anthony Vander - This is my second collaboration with
Joe on a feature film. As Joe touched upon, I approached him with the idea
of a feature film with four characters in a single location and letting
the action play out. He again delivered a fantastic script. I was keen to
work on this project as an actor and producer, but we really wanted to
find an experienced director who was hungry to create this story, which we
found in Nathan.
JH - The three of us have a very productive relationship, which came
about as soon as we met for the first time. Myself and Anthony met with
Nathan in Leicester Square to discuss him coming on board and straight
away we were bouncing ideas off of each other and breathing life into
the pages in front of us. Having worked with Anthony before, we are well
tuned into each other's way of thinking and have a shared vision. Within
the first hour of meeting with Nathan, it became clear that he, too, was
tuned into this way of thinking, this style of storytelling. As soon as
Nathan left, Anthony and I shared a wide-eyed glance, as we knew we had
found our director. We are in communication on an almost daily basis,
making sure we are all on the same page as we get closer to the
production of this film.
Nathan, what can you tell us about the
film's intended look and feel?
NH – As Scales is all set in one location with four characters, the
dynamic and interaction between each of them is essential. I have always
had the idea that the apartment they are in will become the fifth
character as well; their relationship with the building changes
throughout the course of the night, just the same way the relationship
between them changes. I think that this should come across from the
script, so there is no need to be overly forceful with it either.
All being in one apartment does pose some limitations too, but
limitations can be an essential part of the creative process. When we
all first met, we spoke about films such as Rope, Repulsion and
Reservoir Dogs, and how these films work their few locations so well, so
in some ways you will be able to see these influences. I am trying to be
purposefully vague, as I don't way to give too much away but I think the
main point is that as the story progresses, so will the look and feel of
Anthony, where do you see
the challenges of making Scales a reality?
There is always a challenge on any film you are working on, but I guess
this feature film being made on a zero budget will make the challenge an
even greater one, which I am relishing. We are making this film through
crowdfunding, as it is the most accessible way to simultaneously raise
funds and build an audience. With Scales, this is a step by step process
and once we have finished our IndieGoGo campaign, we will move onto the
can you tell us about your projected cast, and why exactly these people?
AV - We have a cast in place. I will be playing the role of Darnell. We
have Jamie Bannerman, who will be playing Adam. His credits include Dead
Fred, One Glorious Sunset and EastEnders. Kamal Simpson will fill the
role of Keith. Kamal's credits include the award-winning Never Let
Benidorm and After You've Gone. Maria will be played by Nicola Roffe,
who has starred in Fast Girls, EastEnders and The Secret World of Sam
King. We all gelled during the rehearsed reading and each cast member is
inspired, supportive and motivated. We are all trained in both stage and
screen acting, and all have experience across all mediums, which is
ideal because, although this is a great film script, its foundations can
be likened a stage play.
film takes place over one evening in one apartment - so do you have your
locations locked yet even, and what can you tell us about the advantages
but maybe also challenges of making a movie in a very limiting, enclosed
AV - We are currently looking at a variety of
different locations. We know we can’t cut any corners with this element
of pre-production, so while we haven’t found our chosen location yet, we
will take our time to make sure we find one that best represents Joe's
vision. As Nathan mentioned, the singular location becomes the fifth
character in this film. The tense nature of this thriller relies on us
turning the location into a boiling pot, where the action plays out
between these four characters. Among the challenges of making a
single-location film, I think the most important is keeping the audience
engaged, but with the script and Nathan's direction, I have full
confidence that we will deliver a great film.
As far as I know, you're currently in the process
of raising funds for your movie - so what can you tell us about your
AV - We've taken to crowdfunding to get our film
made, as not only is this a platform where we can raise funds but we can
also build a fan base and immerse them in the film for the entire journey.
We have some fantastic perks on offer and our campaign has been met with
an incredible reception - we have reached over 50% of our target with 20
days left to go.
Once the budget's in place, what's the
schedule, and even if it's waaay too early to ask, any idea when the film
might be released yet?
AV - We are looking to start filming
in late-February/early-March, with the intention of rounding up
post-production by the summer.
Any future projects you'd like to
JH - I have a first draft of another screenplay ready for Anthony, which
is a feature-length adaptation of his short film Hooligan, which he took
to Cannes in 2012. I am also developing a concept for a feature length
comedy. Sweetboy, Hooligan and Scales have lots of dark humour weaved
throughout a sinister narrative. To avoid earning a reputation as a
sociopath, I'm going to buck this trend and go for an out-and-out
comedy, before inevitably returning to the laughs in the face of misery
which I love writing about so much!
NH - Future projects - I do, but nothing I can divulge yet. Earlier this
year, I was DP for a cult horror, UK:18, directed by Andrew Tiernan, who
was our exec on Sleaford Mods - Invisible Britain. I believe UK:18 will
be out next year, you can see a teaser for it here:
AV - My film The Tutor is currently in development. I have full
confidence that we will shoot this feature length drama sometime in
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Anything else you're dying to mention and
I have merely forgotten to ask?
NH - First of all, a massive thank you to everyone who has contributed,
shared, liked, etc., the project so far. It's a huge task to get a
donation from someone when it may be a year until they see the final
project, but anyone who does is not only supporting us but supporting
the coming generation of film too, as well as the entire indie film
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JH – As well as echoing Nathan's words, I'd like to acknowledge that
there's a lot we can't say about Scales, as the less the audience knows
going in, the better. Audiences were quick to praise the unexpected
turns and tonal shifts in Sweetboy, and we have upped the ante with
Scales, so brace yourselves.
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