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An Interview with Ed Hartman, Producer and Soundtrack Composer of Richard Lyford's 1936 "Lost" Film The Scalpel

by Mike Haberfelner

August 2024

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You've only recently restored the 1936 Richard Lyford film The Scalpel - so in a few words, what's it about?

 

The Scalpel is a short 20 minute horror film. The story is about a mad doctor who transforms himself into a monstrous killer and creates mayhem in a medical institute.

 

How did you get your hands on the footage of The Scalpel in the first place?

 

In 2013 members of the Classic Horror Film Board (https://classichorrorfilmboard.com/) discovered some unknown scenes in a Halloween VHS/DVD from Something Weird Video. With some amazing detective work, they figured out that two films, Ritual of the Dead and The Scalpel were made by Richard Lyford, a young director who went on to work for Disney and eventually direct an Academy Award winning film. A few years later, they connected with the great niece of Lyford, Kim Lyford Bishop. She acquired the films from Richard’s son, Chris. In 2019 Kim asked me to score As the Earth Turns, a silent sci-fi film. That film went into many festivals and distribution, including screenings on Turner Classic Movies. Kim gave me the Lyford film estate, including the physical film-stock. I did know about the Classic Horror Film Board discoveries, but those films weren’t in the film stock collection. I was able to connect with Something Weird, and incredibly they still had the original film-stock for those films. Even more amazing, the offices for the company were a few miles away from me! In fact, the company was in the process of scaling down their activities, so getting these films was incredibly timely. The films were incomplete fragments, under 10 minutes each. I did score them, and put them on the As the Earth Turns DVD in 2020. In 2024, I was going through the film-stock to send to Periscope Films in LA for archiving. As I viewed the films on my editor, I saw something titled The Scalpel! It been hiding in a film can for 5 years!  Incredibly, the film perfectly edited with the second half which I already had and had scored years before. What is off-the-charts about this is that the first half came from the East Coast, and the 2nd half came from the West Coast, nearly 90 years later, and they both matched up!

 

What can you tell us about the condition of the footage of The Scalpel prior to your restoration efforts, and what kind of work did you and your team put in to make it shine again?

 

The 2nd half of the film I had previously worked on was in great condition. The scanning was done in Seattle, and really didn’t need any restoration in 2019. With all of these films, we decided not to edit out the physical edits that Lyford did. It was important that the audience saw these films from the perspective of Lyford in his late teens. He made 9 films before he was 20. The new film-footage of The Scalpel was much more bleached out, for some reason. We had that film frame-by-frame scanned, and then color-corrected to bring the B&W contrast to match the other footage. The results were perfect. Additional editing was done to clean up some cropping issues, and both parts were unified. It was a community effort by Seattle media production companies.

 

With The Scalpel being essentially a horror movie, how would you say it compares to other genre films of the era - or even to today's genre cinema?

 

The Scalpel is somewhat similar to Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Hyde. It was Lyford’s 6th film, and won an Amateur Cinema Award at the time. It’s rougher than As the Earth Turns done a year later, but it holds up very well. I know Richard loved to see movies in the theater and worked hard to match their quality, even though he was working with silent 16mm film. He did create a dual turntable system (like a DJ!) that was synchronized with his projector. He had a timed playlist (classical music, typically) and showed the films in his families basement that seated 50 audience members! The folks on the Classic Horror Film Board really got into Lyford’s films, and talked a lot about how they were very well made and similar to horror films of the 1930s. Lyford had family and friends as cast and crew. He did an astounding job of writing, directing, acting (as the monster), editing, and even developing the film. The monster transition took 6 hours to film. There are double exposures, and other FX. A short film is challenging, because you have to put an entire story into a condensed film. There is no time to linger on a scene. Silent films have other challenges with dialog, of course. Lyford knew how much dialog was needed as intertitles. In the end, you really have to also compare it to silent films from years earlier. There are elements of Phantom of the Opera and other silent classics in the film. I know Lyford had access to a medical facility for some scenes (A cast member was a student at the UW Medical School!). Richard was very creative and efficient with scenes filmed in his families house in Seattle (I have been there).

 

Compared to horror-films today, it does have some mild B&W gore that surprised me. I know that the audiences in his basement went wild watching these films. Ritual of the Dead has some intense stuff in it too! The pacing is pretty good, so there is very good tension in the story. The acting is not bad, considering that most of the actors were, at best, high school drama kids. One of the actors, Barbara Berjer went on to stage and screen. Watching her in these early films shows you why Lyford used her as a lead player. I would guess that Barbara learned a great deal about acting in his films.

 

You've also composed an entirely new score for The Scalpel - so do talk about the film's music, its instrumentation and its musical influences for a bit? And do you have any indication in regards to what kind of music Richard Lyford would have actually wanted for his movie?

 

Owning these films and having a free hand to score without a director is equally freeing and terrifying. When I started to score As the Earth Turns I didn’t know about Richard’s use of records to accompany his films. Later, I did learn through his own articles in American Cinematographer about what he liked. I also interviewed his son and learned more about his dad’s appreciation of classical and early popular music. I know he loved Dvorak, Stravinsky, and others. His playlist came from his families record collection, and inexpensive budget records he could afford from places like Woolworths. I also know that he appreciated how the music from King Kong, one of the first films to be synchronized with the picture. My initial themes were inspired by early horror films of the 30s and 40s. The music starts off with a classical horror theme of that era. It does evolve into more modern music as the film moves on. One challenge of the score was to match the new footage musically to the part I had already scored years before. I do know that Richard would have loved to have his films scored. He had no way to do that in his youth. He was not in Hollywood or had any equipment to do it. Based on my interviews with his son, I believe I have been on the right track with music for these films. Having modern computers and software, the ability of anyone to score a film like this is miraculous. I made Super 8 films as a kid (nowhere on the level of Lyford!). I aways wanted to put music to my films, and did the same thing Lyford did using a reel to reel recorder while projecting the films. It is both an artistic endeavor and a heavy responsibility to be in charge of another person's film legacy, especially from their youth. I know that Richard loved these early films, and that Disney saw Lyford’s ability as a filmmaker when he hired him just after making these films.

 

The $64 question of course, where can The Scalpel be seen?

 

Right now, The Scalpel is all over the film festival circuit (over 50 festivals and 60 awards currently). It’s playing around the country and online. It will be in LA at the TCL Chinese Theater in September 2024, and a number of Halloween events - https://edhartmanmusic.com/the-scalpel-1936-silent-film

 

The fragment from The Scalpel is on the As the Earth Turns DVD along with my doc It Gets in Your Blood and the Ritual of the Dead fragment, but to see the entire film you’ll have to find it through a festival or contact me through my website. Whether the finished The Scalpel film will replace the fragment on the DVD I don’t know. You can see As the Earth Turns on Amazon, Tubi and other platforms.

 

Anything you can tell us about audience and critical reception of The Scalpel yet?

 

So far the audiences love the film. Horror is a perfect film for festivals. It’s also a genre that is typical of young filmmakers. I believe it’s easier than drama or comedy. A bad horror film can still be fun to watch, as any one who has seen MST3K knows!  I am especially proud of producing this film for modern audiences, especially young filmmakers. Seeing a teenage filmmaker from the 1930s achieve such good production with no-budget is truly inspirational. Any filmmaker can relate to the challenges Lyford had making his independent films.

 

The Scalpel isn't the first of Richard Lyford's films you've restored, you've already saved As the Earth Turns and Ritual of the Dead from obscurity before that - so what can you tell us about those, and also your Richard Lyford documentary It Gets in Your Blood ... and about your fascination with Richard Lyford in the first place?

 

As the Earth Turns, a silent 45 minute sci-fi was Richard’s flnal film when he was 20 years old, before moving to Hollywood. It’s a terrific film, and has garnered tremendous reviews over the years. TCM put on Halloween a few years ago, and alongside classic sci-fi film festivals. It’s a complete feature (a bit shorter than modern day films). It has solid acting, effects, action, pacing, etc. It’s an astounding piece of film, with great cinematography that evokes Orson Welles. I only had part of that film initially, and then found more footage in the film-stock collection. I had to figure out the editing, as well. I was able to confirm my editing later, when a dupe was found by another cast member’s family. That was somewhat terrifying, too!  Luckily my edit matched the dupe! My score is more eclectic in that film, using classical and jazz themes. Scenes are filmed around Seattle in well-known locations. The backstory is wild, as well. That’s why I made the mini-doc for reference. Ritual of the Dead is a mummy-style film fragment. It’s got some great acting, and intense action. The score has some Mideast stylings.

 

Do you have any more Richard Lyford rediscoveries in store for us? And/or any other future projects you'd like to share?

 

I am always keeping an eye out for the other 6 films Richard made when he was young. I have a list!

 

I also have a screenplay, The Filmmaker, about Richard’s first 20 years in Seattle. As you can imagine it’s a perfect story for a film. There’s a ton of stories that I have from Richard’s own writings and my interviews with the family. 

 

Your/your movie's website, social media, whatever else?

 

https://edhartmanmusic.com/as-the-earth-turns

https://edhartmanmusic.com/the-scalpel-1936-silent-film

https://edhartmanmusic.com/

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Whew! There’s a lot there. I could go on for a month. These projects came to me just before the pandemic. They also happened around some health issues I am dealing with (successfully). Having films that I can not only score but produce is a tremendous gift. I always wanted to score films, and with modern tech, I can do that. If I hadn’t have gone into music, I would have gone into filmmaking. That would have been around the same time folks like Spielberg were getting going. Lyford’s films have given me a second chance as a producer. Having support from the Lyford family has brought these films to a sizable audience. I have seen over the last 5 years a growing interest in his films. I hope the story of Richard Lyford will become something that filmmakers and anyone interested in movies will be inspired by. I certainly have been.

 

Thanks for the interview!

 

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